As reported on pepipoo
Mx X's vehicle was picking up a disabled passenger from a cruise ship at Southampton. Mx X was not the driver. The port has byelaws which mean that the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 keeper liability provisions are not in force, and only the driver is liable. ParkingEye also failed to make reasonable adjustments to the disabled passenger; for instance, to let them take longer than able bodied passengers.
Court report
Turned up at court with my relative. Parking Eye had sent along someone from LPC who was pleasant enough but we obviously engaged in minimal small talk prior to going in to see the judge.
When we got in front of the judge my relative asked if I could speak on their behalf. The judge basically said no, but he might let me speak later, the LPC person then pointed out that the law on Small Claims does allow for lay representation. The judge looked less than impressed.
I wanted to try and speak and raise the issue of the "Rights of Audience" at the start but again I was asked not to speak at this stage.
The judge pretty much went straight for POFA and the Byelaws and spent some considerable time questioning the PE rep as to why they felt the Car Park was relevant land. Although they made an attempt to do so I go the impression early on the judge was not having any of it.
They then spoke to my relative who confirmed that the witness statement was true, they did not drive the car in or out of the car park and were in fact met from the ship. The judge accepted that this was the truth. They did however ask who was driving and despite the best efforts this was revealed to the court to be the person who provided the witness statement stating that a port employee had said they had to wait in the car park area.
The judge went back to the issue of relevant land and I felt was somewhat scathing of the fact that PE had used an opinion from the BPA as the basis of the argument regarding this. The LPC person tried again but I got the impression the judge was getting rather irritated at this point.
I was then asked if I wanted to speak. I attempted to bring up the issue of "Rights of Audience" and was shot down almost immediately with "I am not going there". I also brought up the size of the witness statement in relation to the claim (little response - perhaps a slight nod). I asked for the witness statement to be disregarded as the person who had written it was not present. I was told that as they had informed me in advance that they would be sending a representative then that was not relevant and the statement would stand. Finally I stressed that we felt that the land was not relevant land and therefore PE did not have the ability to take action against the registered keeper using POFA.
The judge then went into a fairly lengthy summing up going through the byelaws and pointing out the fact that ABP (in accordance with the byelaws and statutes) did have the ability to change the byelaws. They also, under the existing byelaws had the ability to enforce penalties for any breach of the byelaws and because of this the land was not relevant as defined by POFA and so the ruling was for the defence.
Prankster Notes
There have been a rash of judges getting the rights of audience issue wrong lately. The Lay Representative Order 1999, gives anyone rights of audience in the small claims track, as long as the person they are representing is there.
The Prankster suggests lay representatives print out and take a copy with them.
Happy Parking
The Parking Prankster
another dumb DJ.
ReplyDeleteand had this case been thru POPLa , did they find in PEs favour?
ReplyDeleteAnd of course, guess who's still ticketing at the port's car parks?
ReplyDeleteWorthy of a claim for breach of the DPA then. That might make them shut up or at least make it less worthwhile to overlook the obvious non relevant land problem.
Whoever has contracted PE to manage this site needs to take a look at this judgment. A judge has ordered that it is not relevant land. By engaging PE to chase people for parking indiscretions on their land, are they not committing conspiracy to defraud?
ReplyDeleteIt gets worse - I cannot find evidence of any ANPR
ReplyDeletecamera / signage consent application for this PPC
at this site, or any other site in Southampton City. BPA members must comply with CoP, and no CoP means no DVLA data (Supreme Court).