tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post3695529384303155661..comments2024-02-21T09:25:42.645-08:00Comments on Parking Prankster: ParkingEye system drivers shoppers away to rival centresParking Pranksterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15270922602703929291noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-14339030761925377602015-12-20T13:23:46.856-08:002015-12-20T13:23:46.856-08:00The difference between 'hard' and 'sof...The difference between 'hard' and 'soft' lawMickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719812171607782078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-17739113984673981832015-12-19T12:52:04.656-08:002015-12-19T12:52:04.656-08:00"not adhering to a code of practice is also b..."not adhering to a code of practice is also breaking the law"<br />AIUI there is a difference between a CoP and the law as defined by statute.<br />Breaching planning permission is an offence whereas a member of an association who breaches the CoP does not necessarily commit an offence punishable by the courts.<br />The BPA only has powers to discipline/suspend a PPC because the BPA just that; An association not a legal body created or backed by any laws. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-39555661067664742322015-12-18T17:37:01.913-08:002015-12-18T17:37:01.913-08:00I agree
I now have a long list of company's w...I agree <br />I now have a long list of company's who I will not shop with after they treated me so badly after receiving a parking ticket last yearandyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806044136848899230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-34921802880143516532015-12-18T17:08:53.996-08:002015-12-18T17:08:53.996-08:00if a parking company is in breach of the law it is...if a parking company is in breach of the law it is also in breach of the BPA and IPC codes<br />any company not adhering to a code of practice is also breaking the lawandyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806044136848899230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-43522015065581200242015-12-18T12:09:39.933-08:002015-12-18T12:09:39.933-08:00@Mick
Thank you for your answer.
I've learne...@Mick<br /><br />Thank you for your answer. <br />I've learned a lot from your posts about the machinations of PPPC's and the ways they bend the law for their own illegal purposes. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-13687202613688172282015-12-18T06:08:34.664-08:002015-12-18T06:08:34.664-08:00You could put it forward as an argument I suppose,...You could put it forward as an argument I suppose, but I don't think the ICO or DVLA will show much interest - as long as there is a valid contract in place with the landowner and there are signs (albeit not with planning permission) detailing the terms of parking, then if those terms are breached I expect the ICO/DVLA would consider there still to be enough for reasonable cause even where planning permission has not been sought (especially since the Council will often allow retrospective planning applications). Mickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719812171607782078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-74050942979335488592015-12-17T13:14:14.081-08:002015-12-17T13:14:14.081-08:00Thanks for the explanation Mick.
I have another qu...Thanks for the explanation Mick.<br />I have another question for you if you would be kind enough to provide an answer........<br />Doesn't the operation of illegal cameras mean a breach of the DPA is effected in as much as the requests to DVLA for the RK's details are not 'just cause'? <br />Isn't PE acquiring RK's details under false pretences because they do not have the rights to photograph vehicles in this location?<br /><br />Thanks for your responses so far.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-49918312011368330052015-12-17T05:40:53.808-08:002015-12-17T05:40:53.808-08:00Case law suggests that ex turpi causa will only ap...Case law suggests that ex turpi causa will only apply where it would be an affront to the public conscience for a claim to succeed.<br /><br />It's unlikely, although possible, that the courts would see a failure to correctly apply for planning permission as an act of sufficient gravity to allow the defence to operate. Mickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719812171607782078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-35969630274107023722015-12-16T05:27:54.934-08:002015-12-16T05:27:54.934-08:00@Mick.
Thank you for that, I was not aware of it....@Mick.<br /><br />Thank you for that, I was not aware of it.<br />However I did see this while looking at ex tupi causa.......<br />"prevents the courts being used to obtain benefits from as a result of the claimant's own illegal conduct"<br />Isn't the use of illegal ANPR cameras 'illegal conduct'?<br />I'm not versed in this area of the law so I would be grateful if you can put more meat on this particular bone?<br />Thanks.<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-85932298293808464152015-12-16T01:49:00.325-08:002015-12-16T01:49:00.325-08:00Probably not.
The principle of ex turpi causa onl...Probably not.<br /><br />The principle of ex turpi causa only applies to illegal acts where it would be unconscionable to permit a claim to succeed.Mickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719812171607782078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-12273284075887555232015-12-15T04:44:49.796-08:002015-12-15T04:44:49.796-08:00@bob.
The cameras ARE illegal. Cameras mounted on...@bob.<br /><br />The cameras ARE illegal. Cameras mounted on steel poles require planning permission.<br />You've asked the question I've asked myself: Are the illegal invoices generated by PE's illegal cameras enforceable?<br />Is it the case that as the cameras are illegal the contraventions did not take place?<br />Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can give the answers?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-10236098968045210382015-12-14T16:28:57.101-08:002015-12-14T16:28:57.101-08:00Colin, been there a few months ago, they are not i...Colin, been there a few months ago, they are not interested, it's not just there but a few locations in Worksop with ANPR, latest is Matalan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10668762745294428075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-26802673248782754412015-12-14T15:08:03.476-08:002015-12-14T15:08:03.476-08:00Should the ANPR cameras are found to be illegal,I ...Should the ANPR cameras are found to be illegal,I wonder if PE will be forced to refund the poor unfortunates who payed up?<br />bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04508341373383073587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-817030010066586932015-12-14T12:47:40.905-08:002015-12-14T12:47:40.905-08:00Thanks for that.
Bassetlaw DC is undertaking an in...Thanks for that.<br />Bassetlaw DC is undertaking an inquiry (Allegedly)into the illegal ANPR cameras.I will be sending them a follow up email next week to find out the results of their investigations.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-37707080425569863302015-12-14T07:23:07.153-08:002015-12-14T07:23:07.153-08:00http://www.lgo.org.uk/publications/fact-sheets/com...http://www.lgo.org.uk/publications/fact-sheets/complaints-about-planning-enforcement/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06785427057736149944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-5501885419442447692015-12-14T04:25:01.632-08:002015-12-14T04:25:01.632-08:00As the co-author of the report in the Worksop Guar...As the co-author of the report in the Worksop Guardian I should explain that my FoI request to Bassetlaw District Council uncovered that PE do not have planning permission for the ANPR cameras in the Priory Centre. The landowners, Columbia Threadneedle have not responded to my email asking them to investigate PE's 'management' of this car park.<br />It is as I said to the reporter Sophie Wills a scam. A scam operated with the blessings of the Priory Centre management and the landowners who put illegal profits above customer care.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01849075447182334546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-63806004568991461782015-12-14T03:27:29.108-08:002015-12-14T03:27:29.108-08:00Since having to deal with PE in court I decided I ...Since having to deal with PE in court I decided I wouldn't use any of the vendors on that particular retail centre for 12 months. 2 years later the only time I've since returned has been for an occasional McDonalds drive thru. At the 12 month mark I eagerly ordered a Dominoes having abstained and discovered I now prefer the local pizzeria and haven't ordered since. Shopping habits once changed don't easily change back, although as you say B&Q are seeing the opposite. I'm also aware this post makes me seem a junk food addict, but that's really not the case, there are retail outlets there too!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06389996679385682295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-18777392828806669922015-12-13T12:36:53.278-08:002015-12-13T12:36:53.278-08:00This was my local shopping centre, never park ther...This was my local shopping centre, never park there at all, use the council car park next to it, no planning permission for the cameras, Bassetlaw council not concerned... just a money pitAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10668762745294428075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3050188067980163727.post-4979685522590381112015-12-13T12:01:54.464-08:002015-12-13T12:01:54.464-08:00Maybe David Aunins gets a nice BUNG off PE 😱Maybe David Aunins gets a nice BUNG off PE 😱fil cadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04242198555847109653noreply@blogger.com